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  Ouija board?

  by out of the box in

  1. jw
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  i was a teenager i bought a ouigja board and my sisters and i played with it.

  it scared us so much we threw it away!

  but, i was forwarned about it, so i guess i could have driven myself to madness with my own mind!

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  M.J. Thanks for that link. I read it and it is interesting. I liked the fact:

  when the operator is properly blindfolded, only gibberish is produced.

  very interesting. ideomotor effect http://skepdic.com/ideomotor.html. Thanks!

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  Who Made Up The Words "THE TRUTH"

  by horrible life in

  1. jw
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  who made up the words "the truth" .

  if this was an invention, they would be millionaires.

  being called the truth really sets the statement apart from lets say.....the lies.

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  It is a great 'hook' word. It caught me because I heard it and thought "I will finally know what is real and the truth". After all the Catholic church only really did 'ritual' type services with short sermans that had nothing to do with me. I thought this would be more personal...

  Oh yes, it was more personal, too personal and not enough 'truth' was ever said. I kept asking questions, and they would tell me (a woman) to be quiet. How could that ever be the truth? I figured out it was a 'title' for what they thought they had as a religion. They used that word truth as a noun and a title to elevate that cult status of theirs. For them it is never more than that.

  Defending truth is not passive, when the truth is told it is more of something people would die for.

  By the way, TRUTH should not be gender specific!

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  Ouija board?

  by out of the box in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was a teenager i bought a ouigja board and my sisters and i played with it.

  it scared us so much we threw it away!

  but, i was forwarned about it, so i guess i could have driven myself to madness with my own mind!

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  I was a teenager I bought a Ouigja board and my sisters and I played with it. It scared us so much we threw it away!

  But, I was forwarned about it, so I guess I could have driven myself to madness with my own mind! ha ha!

  Anyone here play with one?

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  Is your heart bigger since you left?

  by Ingenuous in

  1. jw
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  i was amazed how, in a matter of days after leaving the org, my heart seemed bigger.

  i was free to love people - truly love them as they were and without condition.

  i was no longer required to sit in judgement of them because they didn't believe as i did.

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  today's my bro's b-day

  by doogie in

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  my little brother turned 23 today (they grow up so fast).

  its been, lets seeabout 3 years since i last saw him; a little over a year since i talked to him.

  i heard he got married.

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  I feel for ya doogie. My little sister has not talked to me in 5 years or so. She is 48. I was suddenly obsolete! She had become a JW along with me and we both left. Now she is on her own and won't talk to my other sister or me. It is sad when your 'little sibling' won't communicate. Hang in there, they will become older someday, and who knows we may get a call or a note?

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  Demonic exorcism by a JW elder

  by out of the box in

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  we moved into an apartment on the 2nd floor.

  we were jws at the time, and the family on the first floor under us was studying.. the girl downstairs started hearing noises during the night and finally hearing steps up to the side of her bed.

  she was so scared she hadn't slept in a while and was so tired.

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  Ingenuous,

  I am not sure what book he read from. It was a JW publication he probably just happened to have in his truck.

  I have seen visions now and then, nothing to be afraid of. But, all 'demonic' stuff happened to me while I was a JW. The gal I studied with used to refer to Satan a lot (Gail Monroe) and maybe that was why I had a problem. That could by why I had to get a psychologist to de-program me too. I thought all the demons were going to come after me like in that movie 'Ghost' when the black spirits attacked only the guilty ones dying. Ha ha!

  That elder, Sonny, surprised everyone by committing suicide. Somebody made a comment that he was barred from the New System after that and all that he did good was wiped out!!! (A JW said this) I am sure that made his funeral a fun place to be! (I did not go, I was way out by then.)

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  Is your heart bigger since you left?

  by Ingenuous in

  1. jw
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  i was amazed how, in a matter of days after leaving the org, my heart seemed bigger.

  i was free to love people - truly love them as they were and without condition.

  i was no longer required to sit in judgement of them because they didn't believe as i did.

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  Ingenuous,

  What a good thread! I would like to think that I have a bigger heart. And, I share it with those I trust. Trust that has been earned not dictated so that I am set up for a fall. What you see is what you get!!!

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  Demonic exorcism by a JW elder

  by out of the box in

  1. jw
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  we moved into an apartment on the 2nd floor.

  we were jws at the time, and the family on the first floor under us was studying.. the girl downstairs started hearing noises during the night and finally hearing steps up to the side of her bed.

  she was so scared she hadn't slept in a while and was so tired.

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  Delilah,

  no one knows. It was weird when we heard of it. We imediately said 'remember the exorcizing'?

  It is a shame, he had remaried and had 4 children all under 18 when he did it. I think he was depressed because his life was not as good as it was before he moved away. He was an elder. He moved to West Virginia and then back to Mass. to another city. He probably came across a cong. that did not accept him in the same way. I am speculating that he did not have the same status. I never heard anything else about him. .

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  Demonic exorcism by a JW elder

  by out of the box in

  1. jw
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  we moved into an apartment on the 2nd floor.

  we were jws at the time, and the family on the first floor under us was studying.. the girl downstairs started hearing noises during the night and finally hearing steps up to the side of her bed.

  she was so scared she hadn't slept in a while and was so tired.

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  We moved into an apartment on the 2nd floor. We were JWs at the time, and the family on the first floor under us was studying.

  The girl downstairs started hearing noises during the night and finally hearing steps up to the side of her bed. She was so scared she hadn't slept in a while and was so tired. We kept our back doors open to a common back hall. I started to lock it.

  I loved wooden things and the girl downstairs gave me a string of wooden beads she had found in the basement. I cleaned them up and put them in a built in cupboard in the dining room. This room was near where our master bedroom was. The doors were near each other. I was awakened that night with the sound like that of rattling beads. I walked all over the 7 room apartment trying to hear the source of the noise. I ended up near that built in cabinet. The beads were vibrating in the glass bowl! I could not see them vibrating, but could hear them. I picked them up, opened the back door, and went out onto the porch and thew them onto the ground below. All was quiet that night, I could feel that the 'source' of the noise was gone.

  The next day I explained to my JW husband, the neighbors and we discussed what to do. My JW husband called an elder and he told us to check anything we had bought recently from a yard sale, etc. We searched the house. Nothing fit that discription. Then we all went together to search the basement.

  It had a dirty floor and very unkept areas and many dark corners. We had to get lots of light in there to see. There was cobwebs everywhere but no sign of anything stored down there but old things broken up. We cleaned it all up. By this time another day went by. I went upstairs to lay down in the afternoon while the others were busy with getting rid of the stuff. I head someone come up the stairs plain as day, I had my back to the door, I got real cold, I thought it was my nerves. I waited till the steps reached beside my bed behind me and I turned around real quick expecting to see my husband, and there was no one there. I had a chill and the hairs on my body were standing up! I just froze. I waited, and slowly the feeling of presence in the room 'left'.

  I ran downstairs and told everyone! We went back to the basement and this time something caught my eye. Between two boards that covered the area under the stairs there was something light colored that was catching the light. We got a prybar and pulled the boards off. There was a box of books. They turned out to be Satanic worshiping books. There was all sorts of pictures of sacrifices with goats and male figures wearing a kind of Ox horn hat and mask. There was Beelzebub listed everywhere.

  Anyway, you can imagine how the JWs we were at the time were feeling! We called the elder and he came right over to exorcise the demons! He prayed with us and we lit a fire in the fireplace and all sat around this box and he prayed real loud. He read from some book and then the Bible. We took one book at a time and burned it. One book would not burn!!! We waited and then the picture of Beelzebub that we saw before jumped out of the book onto the floor. (The book had glossy photos glued onto the page so I am sure the glue let go and the photograph is thicker and glossier than the pages in the book, so it burned at a different rate). It scared us so much! I picked it up an put it onto the fire a few times to get it to burn.

  We did this until all the books were burned. The elder said he could feel something was wrong when he came into the house. And when he left, he felt it was taken care of. The lady who owned the house was in a nursing home and had been there for years. The house was rented out through a lawyer. A week after all this happened she died, and we all had to move. We had lived there 1 year before all that came about.

  That couple moved to New Hampshire and the elder (a few years later) poured gasoline all over himself and lit the match! His children found him and thought he was a burnt log inside their barn or garage. I never had another episode or experience involving that kind of spirit since.

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  which JEHOVAH'S WITNESS SCARE TACTICS kept you from leaving?

  by Ms. Whip in

  1. watchtower
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  meeting jehovah's witnesses at your door was a fresh, new experience.

  they were nice, friendly and smiled real big.

  along with your bible study you received an instant life.

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  MissWhip,

  For me the carrot was the new system. I suddenly felt I didn't have to compete in this world and could just worry about each day. The future was taken care of, and my daily needs seemed easier. I thought I had found a family to belong to.

  The constant reference to torture by other governments and how ugly it will get at Armegeddon started to creep into my dreams. The behavior of the JWs started to make me feel real uneasy so I lost sleep. I thought if I got out, all the demons in the world would come after me. Funny the only experience I had with demons was WHILE I was with the JW's!!! I left, nothing happened (bad that is).

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